User talk:Claytonius3


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=Help!= I need coaching on how to make a pretty userpage =__= Mary 20:20, 19 January 2008 (MST)
 * I asked xolah too, and he asked what sort of wikipage I would like. And I said that I liked your, then he copied it. Preferably I'd like an original looking one. :) Mary 20:12, 20 January 2008 (MST)
 * The first step is to put the whole page inside a table. That way, you can put in columns. Basic Column Structure:

Of Course, You can change the number of rows and columns. You can see more instructions for tables here.

= Welcome! = Welcome to Scrollwars. I hope you enjoy your stay, may it be a long and fruitful one. -- 23:56, 17 October 2007 (MDT)

Welcome to Scroll Wars! --RedUp 15:12, 22 October 2007 (MDT)

=Wiki Work=

Holy Wiki Updates Batman
I'd like to say thank you for all your hard work on the wiki.-- 02:22, 24 October 2007 (MDT)
 * Aw, shucks. Thanks! I hope it is worth doing. I mean, If noone uses it then what was the point? I only just now (dangit!) figured out how to use #INCLUDE, too. might have saved some work. "I will redo the whole thing with templates at a later date.Claytonius3 06:51, 24 October 2007 (MDT)

Do you know of a site I can learn wiki, i'd like to add/change/do things instead of being a copy & paste whore.-- 04:46, 25 October 2007 (MDT)


 * Not really, Sorry. I am combing through the |Meta-Wiki pages.Claytonius3 06:27, 25 October 2007 (MDT)


 * Nice job, Clay. You're bringing back life to this lil' wiki. RedUp 14:10, 25 October 2007 (MDT)


 * That's the idea. I had trouble using it as it was when I was just starting out. Too hard to find things, no good info for basic stuff like how to learn spells. Still nothing about the barrier spells. Your guide + my pages should help keep the players we have, and hopefully make first-timers more likely to stay.Claytonius3 14:19, 25 October 2007 (MDT)

Sysop
I gave you Sysop status. Basically this means you can delete, move, protect pages, etc. -- Mo Mo(d) on pot 11:54, 24 October 2007 (MDT)
 * Hey, thanks. I have moved pages already. The priviledged move also moves the talk page and revert history, i think. It will be handy to be able to outright delete pages. thanks again. Claytonius3 11:56, 24 October 2007 (MDT)

Unique hunting guides
Got one of three done. Go check it out =) Green Dragon hunting RedUp 14:52, 26 October 2007 (MDT)

Animebling-bling
Thanks a lot Claytonius that was the problem. I don't have much experience with editing but am more then willing to help where I can. Animebling 15:09, 27 October 2007 (MDT)

You are awesome
Just look at the work you've been putting in, in such a short time! This wiki has been needing lots of editing/formatting/updating/etc for a long time, and I have neither the time nor the skill to do most of it, but I see you're already halfway through :) Good job, and keep it up, I don't know how I managed to miss you till today :D --Molh394 08:00, 29 October 2007 (MDT) (P.S.: I replied to your message on my talk page :))

Wiki Bot Ban Hammer Go!!
Hey, just wanted to let you know, a few more wiki bots are doing their thing today. I wish I knew their purpose...I can't help but feel that North Korea is behind this. O.o --EJ Wells 14:10, 29 October 2007 (MDT)


 * Could be. They are Wonewy, They're so wonewy. Good job spotting it. I will warn user. (probably bot, but gotta follow protocol.) Claytonius3 14:14, 29 October 2007 (MDT)


 * So ronery ;_; RedUp 14:15, 29 October 2007 (MDT)


 * exactly. Claytonius3 14:16, 29 October 2007 (MDT)


 * Hello, you missed RelnoC4tch and PasorOlotr. They both made unwanted edits as well.  We've been dealing with this on the Hell Rising wiki for a while, but not as frequently as you guys see them here.  Thanks.  --EJ Wells 14:26, 29 October 2007 (MDT)

Lagbert template
Hey man, I've seen you having a hard time with the Lagbert template and thought I would see if you wanted any help. I think I can fix it for you real quick, but I don't want to step on you toes while you are working on it. Just trying to be friendly and help. --EJ Wells 17:02, 29 October 2007 (MDT)


 * Thanks, but I am trying to modify yours. Yours works great (and great Idea too, btw) What I am trying to do is use a parameter to allow choice of lagberts. I uploaded all of them [[Image:LagXX.gif]] where XX= a 2 digit number. I wanted to be able to type and have the pic change, but it does not work. I have asked for help at metawiki, but If you can help that would rock my socks off!  Claytonius3 17:14, 29 October 2007 (MDT)


 * Works! You just missing a [ or two and a few other things.  What do you think?  --EJ Wells 17:16, 29 October 2007 (MDT)
 * That's Whatley's Lagbert template, BTW. It just sunk in what you said. lol.  Don't mind me, I'm slow. :-Þ  --EJ Wells 17:19, 29 October 2007 (MDT)
 * OMG, I cannot believe I made such a dumb mistake. thanks. Gotta take a break, I guess. sheesh. Claytonius3 17:24, 29 October 2007 (MDT)
 * lol. I changed it so you wouldn't need the "Lagbert Number=" to make it work, right as you added it to your user page.  Sorry about that.  Just remove the "Lagbert Number=" from the one on your user page and it will work fine.  Oops! --EJ Wells 17:26, 29 October 2007 (MDT)
 * Heh heh, I can tell you are changing it now! As I am refreshing, the display changes! lol. I rather think it is easiest for users if the parameter name is longer,though. Claytonius3 17:27, 29 October 2007 (MDT)
 * No problem. How about "Lagbert=" instead of "Lagbert Number="?  I like just the number because I AM SUPER DUPER LAZY!!! lol. --EJ Wells 17:29, 29 October 2007 (MDT)
 * It is fine the way it is now. the lagbert list page should have a table with all of the lagberts (my page does not) and their numbers. I will do tomorrow, i guess. Thanks again! Claytonius3 17:30, 29 October 2007 (MDT)
 * No problem. I love playing with templates and page formatting. I can spend days doing it...mainly because I make so many mistakes. lol.  Tomorrow I'm going to try to come up with a Humpty Dumpty template for all of us.  --EJ Wells 17:35, 29 October 2007 (MDT)

Image Help
Wulf asked for some help resizing the picture he used in his cult of primortal banner. I don't know how to resize images hosted on other sites, could you explain how it's done?- 14:28, 3 January 2008 (MST)
 * Sorry, I asked around on mediawiki a couple of months ago. You can't change it. (Planned in future upgrade) I will try to find a workaround.
 * The workaround is easy, resize the picture and upload I just don't have the tools right now.- 16:54, 3 January 2008 (MST)
 * That works, but then the image is localy hosted, which is not what you asked.

Wedding Items
I may have missed something but i'm not sure what. -- 06:18, 3 January 2008 (MST)


 * Thanks X, I'll get right on it.

=Help For Clay=

Transclusion and you.
As an example. Add to the the "key" row, and make things easier on the weapon comparison page.--EVA-251 14:22, 12 November 2007 (MST)


 * Done thanks for the tip. Wish it had come BEFORE I had copy-pasted all of the tables together. oh well. Claytonius3 14:39, 12 November 2007 (MST)

Sig.
Here I go thinking my sig was complicated, when you have a useless page dedicated to yours! IMO, the Nickname tag + Raw signatures checked is much better. --EVA-251 15:49, 17 December 2007 (MST)


 * Testing--Claytonius3 Mod+Template Helper 16:17, 17 December 2007 (MST)
 * Interesting. Thanks for the pointer. It is still easier for me to use "", though. In the Opera browser, I can insert stored text very easily.

=Template:Item Drama=

Eh yeah.
Lol sorry about that edit on your actual page. Failed to pay attention. Message said-


 * Hi. I am the guy who never got a greeting and is treated bad. Could you follow what I did with Item and Weapon when making further templates that would involve the monotonous listing of data? --EVA-251 20:07, 29 October 2007 (MDT)

Template
Looking good, Clay. I suppose we're going to use it on all our pages? RedUp 16:01, 30 October 2007 (MDT)


 * WRY?! Template:Item not good enough? Edit- Look at it, I did not know you could use conditional branches on templates. Hot damn. Thats about all that differs.--EVA-251 16:57, 30 October 2007 (MDT)


 * EVA: I know you are trying to help, but I felt that your template does not convey everything I wanted.
 * By putting the description under the table, for example, The page-creator would have to put the hover description along with information about what the item does, and that gets confusing. I have a parameter at the top of the page so that important items have a space for more information. For example, the telepath crystal would include instructions and behavior guidelines in this area; the Demon Sword would include a brief guide (perhaps by RedUp) of how to obtain it. The directions to Trygia and the estimated drop rate would be unwieldy if included inside the table. EDIT: Problem Solved
 * While it is sometimes helpful to title a table, I disagree that this is one of those instances. Since the name of the item is in extremely large letters on the top of the page, it is unecessary to write it again only a quarter inch lower. Edit:Problem Solved
 * As part of making this wiki easier to use, I feel it is extremely important to limit the number of terse, unhelpful answers. While having ="wear" may be correct and sufficient information for us, it does not explain to new users How to wear the item, or what the effect (none for now!) will be. By only writing "wear", this page displays no more information than the old pages.
 * I started this project and have worked for 17 hours (so far) so that the new version would have all of the information about every item. The old system has minimal information, and it is too hard to read. As a new player, I still cannot reliably find the answers to my questions in the old system. My goal from the start has been to make this wiki (and thereby the game itself) more accessible to newer / younger players. I appreciate your help, and agree that putting the info in a table looks more "put together". I had hoped, however that the parameter list had been finished. As long as the template parameters continue to change, the helpful people doing data-entry and proofreading would be wasting time to work on individual item pages. Claytonius3 07:42, 31 October 2007 (MDT)

=EJ vs Clay: Category Wars!= Looks great, Clay. One thing though, "category=" does nothing. You have to use "hover type=" to get the item type to show up. I hope you don't mind, but I changed it on the human skin vest to show what's up. Sorry if I'm stepping on anyones toes. I'm a turd that way. --EJ Wells 16:50, 30 October 2007 (MDT)


 * Hey bro, it's meddling EJ again. I tweaked your template so whatever is put in "category=" will show up as that page's category now.  I hope that's what you wanted that variable to do.  If not, don't mind me, I'm tarded.  Check out Human_Skin_Vest.  I promise to stop fiddling with your work now.  Peace!  --EJ Wells 17:12, 30 October 2007 (MDT)


 * EJ: It was actually the way I intended it. Category is just used to place the article page in a category. Type is what shows when you hover. No reason type AND hover can't both be on there, though! I will make sure it works that way. Also, categories cannot (as far as I know) have a default value. I tried to call the template without a value for category, and got ] displayed instead.Claytonius3 07:42, 31 October 2007 (MDT)


 * I see what you were doing now. I think I'm going to just stay out of anything going on with the wiki until everything blows over.  You seem to have your hands full as it is.  Sorry again for causing you any problems.  Peace!  --EJ Wells 12:34, 31 October 2007 (MDT)


 * no problem! Things are blowing over already. EVA and I want basically the same thing. I hope to merge the templates by COB. Claytonius3 12:36, 31 October 2007 (MDT)

Image Sizes
Hi, just wanted to leave a note that the image resizing thing wasn't based on disliking what you did, etc. - I just have it so that each NPC has a regular size image, then an image that's 2x the normal size. Woot? Woot. :B -- Mo Mo(d) on pot 17:01, 6 November 2007 (MST)
 * No problemo, Mon Kapitan! I figured the Ginormogantic dragon was a mistake. Guess not. No worries.

=Got a Wiki Question?=

Spell Work
Hi Claytonius, just wanted to say that ive been doing some work on the spells, getting data and trialling cast rates to try a find an actual average success rate (at the moment it's just "low", "moderate", "high". I wouldn't know how to put it on the wiki, so would you like me to send you what i've got when i'm finished? Dean.b.fred 15:28, 12 November 2007 (MST)
 * That would be great, thanks! All of that data will probably be compiled down to a "Success Rate" or "Accuracy" value. Good WorkClaytonius3 16:07, 12 November 2007 (MST)
 * I've added in accuracy values for Fireball and Lightning Strike. I need to buy static snap before i can start testing that. If you want to look at my data to make sure im not just making the numbers up just ask lol. Great work with the wiki too, you truly are a Wiki-Diety =) Dean.b.fred 16:22, 13 November 2007 (MST)
 * Thanks, for helping and for the compliment! :)

Template Help
Instruments. Category. lolwut. --EVA-251 14:58, 14 November 2007 (MST)
 * ^That was barely intelligible... heh. Sure we can make an instruments cat. Are the two trumpets the only thing in it, though? If so, I would rather put them in clothing I think.
 * Really? I read it perfectly. As "What is the category for Instruments?". There is 3 other instruments beside those 2, and I have heard there is more. (3 at music shops)
 * Then instruments is fine.

Armor Bonuses
Hi again Clay, sorry to clutter up your talk page even more =P im planning on gathering data regarding the armor bonuses - im going to see what the Min/Max damages done to me will be for each item i own when it is equipped by itself; in other words, im going to singly test each item i own to see what is giving me the armor bonus i have (when im hit by demon sword, Max DMG done to be only 5). I'll be filling in the data for the items i have tested/own when im done. I figured it was something relatively important to do, since the most accurate information to data is "if it's more expensive it is better" (quoted Jedaz). Just thought i'd let you know =) Dean.b.fred 03:17, 16 November 2007 (MST)
 * Clay, i've already given up. I cant think of a way to test it easily (aka, im too lazy lol) considering that the resistance value of all items is less than 1, and they add up to a total resistance value that is subtracted from the damage inflicted. In other words, i'd have to use the values for armor that Xolah has provided, and then go through all the different combinations of those values in order to see exactly when the addition of another item to the combination allows a resistance value of 1 - which would take time i dont have right now (exams). However, in the week or 2 before christmas, i'll have plenty of time - i'll try again then, when im more patient. Anyway, i'll stop bothering you now lol. Dean.b.fred 04:06, 16 November 2007 (MST)
 * Not a bother! This is a very tough project, though. I PM'd Mo for some help, we'll see how that goes. Good luck on exams!
 * Clay - i'm trying again! Only one problem - the values Xolah gave for the armor valure are either wrong, OR the armor resistance value rounds up at a certain point. I'll explain; when i had equiped a Skull Chestplate(.5), Jewelled Gauntlets(.3), Blindfold(.05), and 1 Friendship ring(.1), i gained a resistance of 1. Yet the values only add up to .85 - however, when i used a Skull Chestplate and 1 friendship ring, giving a value of .6, i gained no resistance. I find it that it rounds DOWN to 0 when it's at .6, yet rounds UP to 1 when it's at .85. So yeh - just thought i'd let you know im going to try again, and that i've already stopped until i get an answer from Jedaz =P Dean.b.fred 02:32, 29 January 2008 (MST)
 * I seem to recall that Xolah just made those numbers up as a suggestion. I don't think they actually apply. I am working with Jedaz to get some info too. --Claytonius3 Mod+Template Helper 08:50, 29 January 2008 (MST)
 * The original ones I posted for you on I can't even remember which page were accurate, inso far as Jedaz gave me the information. The ones posted on the suggestion board were only a suggestion. When they redo the inv system Jedaz is going to add an armor value system so we can see which armor piece has what value, which is why I haven't been working on it. - 08:57, 29 January 2008 (MST)
 * It is badly needed. If the bonuses pop-up in javascript, that would be great. --Claytonius3 Mod+Template Helper 09:25, 29 January 2008 (MST)

Scroll of Lives
I completely forgot about doing it *embarrassed* sorry Clay - would you like me to create a new page and use the template you've made? And link it into the Magical Item's? if you do, under what category bit..."magic"? or make a new heading for scrolls? i ask alot of questions don't i... Dean.b.fred 14:57, 16 November 2007 (MST)
 * No prob! I would be excited too, If I had a scroll! Yeah, make "Category=Scrolls" not magic items, or anything else. Make sure it is "Scroll Of Lives" all caps pagename. (I will move it if not, but don't wanna have to.) Put everything else you know AFTER or BEFORE the template (i.e. not using the template parameters) We will figure out where to put the info latere. Thanks!

=Newb Swarm=

Invite
Sorry if this isn't an appropriate place to put this (wiki editing isn't my strong suit) but could I get a guild invite please? I am pretty new, but not really interested in the items. It's far more fun to buy them myself. But it seems like a fun guild to help out, if there's anything you need that I can do. Thanks for your time and consideration, CateranLlama 01:46, 6 December 2007 (MST)
 * Sure, Consider yourself invited. --Claytonius3 Mod+Template Helper 08:33, 1 February 2008 (MST)

I was wondering if I could get a invite to the guild also. I'm brand spanking new and could use some help or maybe just be cannon fodder. Naois 00:23, 1 February 2008 (MST)
 * Sure thing! --Claytonius3 Mod+Template Helper 08:33, 1 February 2008 (MST)

Hello I am sorry for editing here but I don´t know how to let you know that I am interested in being a member of yor guild,mi Id in the game is gameoverthee, and I would like to know a better way to speak with you, like msn or a forum, tnak you for reading thois BYE User:gameoverthee 04:15, 20 April 2008 (MST)

Inventory,Guild and absenteeism
What's going on with your inventory, why aren't you leading newb swarm and where are you man?- 22:30, 11 December 2007 (MST)


 * Bad HTML, Testing Something, Here.

What code formats does the wiki support?
???- 08:50, 18 December 2007 (MST)
 * What do you mean? -Me

=Jedaz's guide= This old guide by jedaz should be rolled into RedUp's guide. (just the bit about XP Cows).
 * Got this done. Thanks again, Clay. RedUp 13:26, 30 November 2007 (MST)
 * No worries! -me

=Javascript Tooltips= I don't know if you can see the script or not, but on my page, under User:EVA-251/javasc~1, I have got a working tool tip. The only drawback I see so far is that it dislikes HTML for some reason. --EVA-251 17:53, 19 December 2007 (MST)
 * Nothing popsup with Opera, and in IE all I get is the code itself from "fixedrely=[40]" to "otherwise.]" . I don't use firefox (Don't Like it either) so I cannot test with that. Both browsers have JS on.
 * Ahh. I guess custom user javascript only shows up for the person who made it. By pasting my CSS/JS into User:Claytonius3/monobook.js and User:Claytonius3/monobook.css, you could replicate it on your page. I don't have any idea why it rejects HTML, also. When you use it, it breaks the script. --EVA-251 [[image:macro.PNG]] 08:33, 20 December 2007 (MST)
 * Once the usefulness of tooltips is demonstrated, perhaps Mo will make it default in some way. Until then, Good luck with the HTML problem.

= The Return Of Miss Grimm =

Yeah I'm considering being a more active part of scroll wars. Miss Grim 22:37, 20 January 2008 (MST)
 * Happy to Hear it! --Claytonius3 Mod+Template Helper 06:36, 21 January 2008 (MST)

hehe, i didnt know what the demon was, i just thought it looked awesome

and no actually, i havnt had any wiki experience at all, i suppose it from being part of forums and moderating a few.

thanks though :)
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