User talk:Gage

Never again
Please, don't edit my guild page. The editing conflict lost all my last update. Now I have to spend time to do it again. -- LordTunnel Mod 18:55, 15 October 2006 (PDT)
 * What are you, wiki incompetent? An edit conflict doesn't cause you to lose anything!--Gage 21:36, 17 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Gage, calm down, not everyone is able to use the wiki to it's full potential. LordTunnel, Gage is right, you didn't loose anything as the wiki returns your text. When you get the edit conflict it has your text in at the bottom of the page. It'll be labled, next time check it out and you'll see that it's fine, ok? - 21:48, 17 October 2006 (PDT)

Gold Blade Discussion
My IP adress is 74.135.10.74, tool.-- 14:04, 6 October 2006 (PDT)
 * I can confirm this... but we of course know there was never any doubt that "stab at ye2" was using a proxy that is in no way tracable to any real user. Could be GB (hey, it's possible) or it could be 3pwv. OR it could me, you, cyberbob, Xoid, Jedaz, Hammero, Mia... well, you get the idea without my listing every single person in the world... since that's the pool of possible suspects. Heck, the people I listed all have a past that would make them likely, eh? -- ♫♪ They say thatMo is one bad mother- shut your mouth! ♫♪ 16:23, 6 October 2006 (PDT)
 * I have a long list of highly likely suspects. -- 17:38, 6 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Nah, I never reveal a false identity when I go on UD, I either tell them that i am the 3pwv or I say that I am new. I have never actually said I was someone else, ever.  The Devil 18:45, 6 October 2006 (PDT)

Gage, I have lost all of my respect for you, which was a lot. I honestly thought that you were a better person. But you proved me wrong, again and again. Oh well. -- 21:06, 6 October 2006 (PDT)

Honestly, this is the biggest problem on Ud wiki. -- 23:57, 6 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Yeah, I was talking with Mo about that.--Gage 13:28, 7 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Where is your charachter, gage? I would like to meet Gage.-- 21:08, 7 October 2006 (PDT)

Just a question
May I ask why you changed your vote from unbanning me to abstaining? No matter what the outcome I'm not planning on vandalising the UD wiki just so you know, you have my word on it. If you have a look at Matthew Fahrenheit's vote he said it best in my opinion. Just take a look at it and think very carefuly. Also when Xoid leaves his response to my question I'm sure that you and just about everybody else will see that his ban was unjust. I know, because the answer to the question is signing pages. With motive, yes it can be vandalism eventually, without it, such as I do now, it isn't. He doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to actual evidence of any acts of vandalism, and thats because I haven't vandalised. - 02:27, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Why did you admit it then? 02:35, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Because I had motive at the time, mainly because of you antagonising me. You know how it goes, you say some fairly stupid things when you are angry. Also didn't you notice that I said vandalism with "'s. Thats because only the future will determine what it is. But for now it isn't, and I don't plan on it ever being vandalism. - 02:41, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Sorry, but you just don't spread that kind of psychotic rage over multiple days. 02:44, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * You do realize that constant aggravation does extend it? - 02:48, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Infact strait from here, my first statement about this I say "Well I'm going to sow my seeds into the Urbandead Wiki so that if I'm ever close to being kicked off or I'm pissed off at everyone then I can go off with a bang and hide behind the rules while screwing up lots of pages on the wiki hardcore. Infact I can "vandalise" hundreds of pages AND have them kept that way due to the rules. He he, I can be very nasty if I really want to. Mind you though I don't plan on doing anything like that for a very long time." Now from that point I was provoked many times from you, Xoid and Bob Hammero. Now I'm sorry if I over reacted and said I actually would vandalize and that I said that I did vandlize the UD wiki, but you have to realize that being attacked by your fellow peers *is* not helpful and doesn't make you want to help them. - 02:57, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * I'm sure you can understand that being threatened with vandalism by one of your peers *is* not helpful and doesn't make you want to help them. 03:01, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Yes, however did anyone go and ask me why I was threatening it? Simply put, no. Everyone just labled me as a vandle who couldn't change. No one thought, "Hey, maybe Jedaz is having a bad day, I might see why he was saying this and I'll ask in a nice and friendly way". Yes yes, I know that it's not other peoples responsibilitys to meet my emotional needs, but after being stuck in an atmosphere of people being unfriendly it does end up draining you and you start to feel bitter. Maybe if the moderators on the UD wiki were friendlier then the UD wiki wouldn't be in such a state. Infact I know that if the UD moderators were nicer for the most part (there are some exceptions) then you wouldn't have the issue with Gold Blade, The Devil and others. - 03:23, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * No-one needed to ask. You stated it very clearly that you were starving for attention, and by the looks of things, you've achieved that goal. 03:25, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * And by the looks of things you don't plan on giving me a fair chance. You do realize that by doing that you are just showing the vandals around that the UD wiki moderators are incapable of their position being challanged? Well you actions are leading to the UD wikis death, and none by my own hand. Enjoy it while it lasts, because from what I've heard you won't be laughing for long. - 03:31, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Er... Jedaz? I'm only following the rules of the job. Proxy accounts are banned, and their edits reverted. Get someone to post the comments for you (in a quote or something) if you really feel the need to make your opinion heard, since going around the rules like that only makes you look bad. 03:35, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Except that it's not vandalism, and there was no malicious edits. Going around the rules to get justice doens't make me look bad, if I was vandalising then it does make it look bad, but I'm not so I don't think it would. Ok Cyberbob, prove it to me then, put my words back up in a quote *if* you are giving me a fair chance. Oh, and it wasn't a proxy account either. They never banned my IP in the first place. - 03:41, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * OK then, vandals' alts are banned. Happy? 03:49, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Not until you put my comments back up here. As a moderator it is your duty to be level headed and to be fair. Now, in being fair that entails alowing people to create a defense for themselves and their actions, something which you are currently not allowing me to do. I would like to quote from the Guidelines that "As a wiki, each voice has equal weight, regardless of their abilities." That means that people deemed vandals also have a voice of equal weight, and thus it is deserved to be heard as long as it isn't destructive. Or are you saying that as a moderator that you arn't fair? - 03:57, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Hm, let me see. No. As far as I and the other mods (except for a few notable exceptions) are concerned, you're a vandal (or at least an accessory), and thus should be banned - it'd be unfair for me not to ban your alts and remove their comments. What about all the other vandals, eh? Why should you be treated differently? Like I said. I'm not trying to specifically prevent you from defending yourself. If you want your voice heard (I'm repeating myself yet again...), you must work through someone else. 04:03, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * This is where you go wrong. This was put up by a non-vandal user, it is relevant information, and yet it gets reverted. True, I put that there in the first place, but Gage saw that it was relevant info, and he put it back up. And yet, Xoid "reverts" it. his reason? He should ask through the proper channels. Well. I am going to ask Gage to put it back up again, and if it gets reverted again, then you know that Xoid is trying to cover up important, relevant info that people who are voting should know. -- 10:28, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * And THIS is where you can tell that they KNOW that they'redoing something wrong. Abstain means: you want to show participation, perhaps you have something to say, but does NOT mean the same as no. This shows thay they are TRYING to keep him banned, not they are doing the right thing. -- 10:32, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * I'm not banning trouble makers. If I were to go about banning trouble makers then I sincerely doubt much of the wiki would be left. There is a difference between someone who has a difference of opinion and someone actively helping to undermine the wiki. Oh wow oh wow. Even MORE evience that Xoid is wrong. He knows that there are a lot of people who are destroying the wiki are going around unhampered. And yet he does nothing about it. Instead, he bans a long time wiki contributor. Talking about something and doing it is two different things. Xoid is, by his own definition, actively helping to undermine the wiki. He is letting those who are are chipping away at the wiki continue their work. -- 10:56, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * I thought that would be the case. Well it seems more and more people are becoming unsure if Xoids decision was the correct one. It's only a 7 person difference, and I'm sure that the gap will shrink a bit more, if not swing in my favor. That attitude of not allowing people to defend themselves is probably one of the reasons why so many vandals attack the UD wiki. I remember before when I was a moderator, 3 page came along and wasn't committing any vandalism as of such. I knew it was him because of his name, but I let him be, and you know what? He didn't even attempt to vandalise the wiki. I was keeping an eye on him of course but not one single edit that was vandalism. Mind you he was blocked by Darth after a few edits, but my point is that if you give people the chance that you'll find most of them arn't trying to make people fail, but are trying to do what they think is best. - 04:14, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * And the one reason that I should be treated differently is because I was a long time contributor to the wiki who has not made a bad faith edit in the past where with all of the other vandals they have. That is why I should be allowed to make my defense and respond to questions in a timely fasion. - 04:54, 9 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Just remember to --Gage 15:18, 19 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Ha, yes. Ok, I'll remember. - 18:41, 19 October 2006 (PDT)

UD VB
Can I ask what you hae against any two people who use the same IP adress? Look at AOL: They have mabye 200 people on a single adress. Chances are, it's just an ISP that does the same thing. -- 11:45, 15 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Uhuh... yeah, sure. They would post on the same topics too right? Some of those were legit, but others obviously aren't. I just want the community to be aware of the problem.--Gage 18:44, 15 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Problem? Am I mistaken?  I thought it was still allowed to have alt accounts on UD, as many as you want to.  Or has that no alt policy pass?  The Devil 19:35, 19 October 2006 (PDT)
 * You're allowed to have alts, as long as they don't vote on the same things etc. If an alt vandalises, it's permabanned and the main is warned. BUT, if you've got an alt just for one of your ingame charries, then its page is moved to your userspace and the alt is banned. 02:27, 20 October 2006 (PDT)

I am a mod on the UD wiki. Beat that.
Easy, I got a perma-ban on the UD wiki reversed =) - 00:57, 18 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Uh, you just not have to be a douchebag to beat it...-- 20:04, 21 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Are you implying that you're a douchebag? O_o 00:39, 26 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Um, how do you get to that conclusion? I've already beaten it... -- 10:16, 27 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Har har. You r so funnay, gold bl8. 18:36, 27 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Ok, you are making abosoloutely no sense now... -- 19:00, 27 October 2006 (PDT)

Apologies
I apologize to you in the highest level I can. I do not ask for or expect forgiveness, because, I honestly don't deserve it. I thought that by writing that, that I could show that not everything is as it seems. In forgiveness, I shall no longer have anything to do with the UD Wiki, and I will ask the others to stop further edits. I cannot think of anything else I can do to show my sincerest apologies, but if you want something, simply ask for it. I have left a reply to your message on my talk page too. -- 17:38, 18 October 2006 (PDT)
 * So says the dead wicked witch. I read that and I still respect you. -- 19:43, 18 October 2006 (PDT)

Great Job!
Good job getting yourself on Misconduct, dumbass. -- 17:28, 25 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Not hard when we have people who style themselves as the wiki's saviour running around. 23:15, 25 October 2006 (PDT)
 * HEY! --Axe Hack 05:54, 26 October 2006 (PDT) Opps....heh heh...thought that link was to my user page.... --Axe Hack 05:56, 26 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Your trolling doesn't even make sense anymore, let alone make much of a point, CB... -- 14:18, 26 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Learning to read is hard, I know. Keep at it! You'll get there eventually. 14:37, 26 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Um, CB, Hagnat isn't here. And I was talking about wtf do you mean, it not hard etc.. I get permabanned from a place, and you place someone else's problems on me still? you are more of a dumbass than I thought, and that's REALLY saying something. -- 10:15, 27 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Someone else's problems? 18:36, 27 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Have I lost you? -- 19:01, 27 October 2006 (PDT)
 * I was just wondering whose problems I'm supposed to be placing on you. 01:42, 28 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Goldblade, knock it off. I was expecting you to rise above this. I wonder about your dedication, re-read number one. You've got what you have given. - 02:22, 28 October 2006 (PDT)
 * I wasn't the one who came where nobody asked me to, and I would honestly like to hear some of this stuff from him. anyway, you say that it's not hard to get on misconduct when someone who envisions themselves as trying to help the wiki is permabanned? How would I come into play at all in that? -- 10:44, 28 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Well, I was the jerk here, sorry CB, sorry gage. I need sleep, I havent gotten any in several days.-- 10:45, 28 October 2006 (PDT)
 * I am going for a misconduct case every day.--Gage 02:23, 27 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Go for it! -- 10:15, 27 October 2006 (PDT)