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--This time I am not lying; thus I do not have to vandalize smart ass. --BTW savor the moment Warped you probably won't break another cherry for the rest of your life. --LordTunnel 14:59, 5 July 2006 (PDT)

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 * To bad none of your links work @@. But i LOVE this comment "This time I am not lying; thus I do not have to vandalize".  Do you realize the stupidity of the comment? Warped 15:49, 5 July 2006 (PDT)

Watch out for foot in mouth disease, there. --Mad Mart 10.30, 6 July 2006 (CST)

It's about time I made your list. I was starting to feel inadequate. --Korso
 * Lucky you. I've already killed three of them, and I still haven't made the list. --Akikotai
 * I'd now like to point out that I said that a number of weeks ago when I was still a PKer, and that I no longer PK and have +100 karma, in case anyone tries to kill me. -- Akikotai 15:39, 3 September 2006 (PDT)

How do I join a guild? Epic 09:34, 2 September 2006 (PDT)
 * To join a guild, use the Guilds page in game. Find a guild that says anyone for recruitment, click it's link and there should be a button that says Join Guild. Click that and you're a member. Some guilds, such as this one, however are invite only and that means that you have to be invited by someone from the guild. Hope this helps. -- 11:00, 2 September 2006 (PDT)
 * Ok that helps, this guild looks cool, who would I talk to to get invited. Epic 20:55, 2 September 2006 (PDT)
 * Giving us a link to your profile would be a start. Saber HaVoC 11:34, 3 September 2006 (PDT)
 * Here: http://www.scrollwars.com/view.php?id=1574. Also is there a karma requirement for this guild, mine is only 80(heroic) right now. Epic 14:46, 3 September 2006 (PDT)

A Letter To HaVoC
Dear HaVoC,

''It has come to my attention that this is a kick ass guild. In this regard I write to send my greatest congratulations for good deeds done, fine mischiefs danced, and swift and fierce retributions dealt. HaVoC is a fantastic, fun, and upbeat guild and is made so by its comraderie and devotion to taking care of its own.''

''Thank you for keeping the spirit alive. Keep up the good work.''

Sincerely,

Mad Margaret

-- MaRt ModHaVoC 21:03, 11 September 2006 (PDT)
 * ^____________^ We're lucky to have you, Ms. tOrTiFiEr. <3 --&there4; V ModHaVoC 21:16, 11 September 2006 (PDT)
 * <3 you guys. Saber HaVoC 22:09, 11 September 2006 (PDT)

A question
Just out of curiosity, why did you take me off the enemies list? Is it because of my truce with Morgana, my infrequent appearances, or did you all just finally warm up to me?-Korso
 * Why, would you like put back on it? --&there4;Morgs Mod&bull;B'cratHaVoC 00:13, 24 September 2006 (PDT)
 * I wasn't complaining, just curious. I only actively hunt a few of your members, anyhow.-Korso
 * Oh? Who might they be? --&there4;Morgs Mod&bull;B'cratHaVoC 20:05, 25 September 2006 (PDT)
 * HaVoC is a tight-knit group of folks who watch each others' backs. So if you're jabbing at one person, you might as well expect the rest of us to be after you.-- MaRt ModHaVoC 20:56, 25 September 2006 (PDT)

The List
Vlad is back on, but i think he may have changed. I killed him twice the other day. Once for past crimes and then again to shut him up. I then told him to calm down and ill call it all even. Since that day i have yet to hear him say a thing; tho of course i may be missing some convo. If the case IS that he has kept quite then i would like to put foward that he be removed for now. Unless of course he has done more, or you see his past actions as warranting continued actions. Warped 14:40, 26 September 2006 (PDT)
 * We'll give him a weeks probation, see how he behaves. If he doesnt kill anyone we'll take him off. Fair? --&there4;Morgs Mod&bull;B'cratHaVoC 18:56, 26 September 2006 (PDT)
 * yeah, i just wanted to put my two cents in. He seems to have made a 180 after my kills (for now anyway).  And i did give him an ultimatum that he so far has followed; i wanted to post that.Warped 20:44, 27 September 2006 (PDT)
 * Due to some recent ...unpleasant information I have received, he is staying on the list. --&there4;Morgs Mod&bull;B'cratHaVoC 23:34, 1 October 2006 (PDT)

Ouch!
Hello there, my name's Will Smogg, proprietor of the Aces Tavern and "leader" of the Aces Tavern Regulars and I have a very simple question: Why the crap did you attack us? Now maybe it's because Warped was always friendly to me, or maybe because I like cherry torte, but I just kinda assumed you were mostly friendly, or at least not the PK type. So, did I miss something? ---Will Smogg 07:22, 2 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Oh gee, I dunno. Prolly something to do with this:

Huang Xin hits you with a Battle Axe for 10 damage. Huang Xin hits you with a Battle Axe for 10 damage. Huang Xin hits you with a Battle Axe for 9 damage. Huang Xin hits you with a Battle Axe for 9 damage. » Rider has been killed by Huang Xin with a Battle Axe. » Huang Xin kills you. A tingling sensation comes over you as your soul is roughly tugged away from your mortal form. You sense Huang Xin loot something from your corpse. You sense Huang Xin loot something from your corpse. You sense Huang Xin loot something from your corpse. You sense Huang Xin loot something from your corpse. You sense Huang Xin loot something from your corpse. You sense Huang Xin loot something from your corpse. You sense Huang Xin loot something from your corpse. You sense Huang Xin loot something from your corpse. You sense Huang Xin loot something from your corpse. You sense Huang Xin loot something from your corpse. You sense Huang Xin loot something from your corpse. You sense Huang Xin loot something from your corpse. You sense Huang Xin loot something from your corpse. You sense Huang Xin loot something from your corpse. You sense Huang Xin loot something from your corpse. You sense Huang Xin loot something from your corpse. You sense Huang Xin loot something from your corpse. You sense Huang Xin loot something from your corpse. » Through Huang Xin's dark powers, you are able to return to the land of the living, but must fully rest. ♥ Huang Xin heals you for 10 HP.

We usually dont attack, but we are a neutral guild, and we do take care of our own. --&there4;Morgs Mod&bull;B'cratHaVoC 08:39, 3 October 2006 (PDT)


 * Hum... interesting. I don't have any reason NOT to believe you but Huang Xin claims his innocence. Would you happen to have proof of this crime? (And by the way, who's Rider?) --Will Smogg 11:44, 3 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Rider As for proof her corpse is at the monument near your Tavern, and she's mine, so my word isnt good enough? I dont make up people killing me. --&there4;Morgs Mod&bull;B'cratHaVoC 11:48, 3 October 2006 (PDT)

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Re: Ouch! + Response
Haha. Ok, I'll admit to doing that exactly as you've pasted. However, if you consider yourselves just people (and I know you can be) whom govern themselves by just means then allow me to further analyze and clarify the situation at hand so we may reduce any further violent or malicious action taken.

Rider (http://www.scrollwars.com/view.php?id=1326) is a Lv. 9 Peasant whom is leader of the guild "Darryl's Fangirls" (http://www.scrollwars.com/guild.php?view=Darryl's%20Fangirls).

Immediate Assessment: Upon initial revealment of user "Rider " hiding at Baldera Monument (23,14) by me no offensive action was taken towards said user. After an observed prolonged period of stationary or inactive status, (Over 48 hours I believe) and no visual, direct involvment with the guild known as "HaVoc" I made an educated decision. As newcomer to the game, but familiarity with the layout after much experience with the game "Urban Dead" I was curious as would be anyone in a new environment.

My motivation for the above action was to:
 * A.)Lower my Karma rating to understand more thoroughly the system of light/dark barriers and karma titles
 * B.)Further understand the effects of the ability "Zombify" as implemented
 * C.)NOT cause any confliction between parties by decidely experimenting on someone whom at the time (That is the time stated on the screen from which Morgana took said information) did not have an actual guild, for link would immediatley reveal guild's status as "Guild does not exist" (Note: actions took place in Alpha v0.3)

A justification to commited acts are given above as well. Immediatley follow alleged PK I proceeded to Revive Inactive user "Rider " as shown. After looting numerous times (until th epoint where I could still loot to decrease MY karma, but not receive any coins) my MP was re-charged enough to use Health Transfer on user "Rider ". Now the only major fault here would be me needing to return 15 coins or so, however a majority of the Corpse Looting was fruitless and only meant to lower karma.

If my intentions were of malcontent several things would NOT have happened: However, evidence provided by Morgana above shows otherwise.
 * User "Rider " would NOT have been revived/Zombified.
 * User "Rider " would NOT have been healed at all with available MP.

To prove that user "Rider " is/was inactive this screen shot shows user STILL (presntly) in an unconcious state in same location since attack took place. This screencap was taken today.

Note: ''To clarify the context of this guild (as to the best of my knowledge, I speculate) Darryl is the or one of the main programmers to the game "Scroll Wars" (Alpha Version 0.4 10/03/06). Thus whomever User "Rider" is actually (if a sole entity or a one of multiple characters to one IP/player)created a "Darryl's fangirl" guild. Prior to game modification with Alpha version 0.4 There was an error with code pertaining to "Darryl's fangirl" guild. The error entailed displaying "This guild does not exist" or similar when linked. In alpha version 0.3 The displayed "Guild Allies/Enemies" links were NOT available and thus guild alliances would be judged from speculation.''

IN CONLUSION:

The attacks were admitted to and justified. If User "Rider " would like to be re-embursed for small funds lost I will gladly do so. HOWEVER, the malicious reaction by guild HaVoc on affiliated group Aces Tavern Regulars is unacceptable behavior. When in comparision of experience, Level Ranges, abilities, HP/MP differences, etc. between groups it hardly seems as if the HaVoc guild plays fairly. As a group of players priding ourselves on peaceful relations, having fun, and exploring every facet of life in a new environment, The Acse Tavern Regulars don't purposefully seek out confrontation. That being said I humbly ask your group to stop any attacks on our group if you believe in amicable commonality.

I do not know the members of your group much if at all, and would like not to start off on the wrong foot. I do not view myself as a niave, immature person and hope you would not assume/react in such a manner either. If HaVoc's motto really is "The Best of the Best" then I have no doubt in your abilities as an group. But To be the Best of the Best takes more than words. I hope this helps.

--Huang Xin 12:44, 3 October 2006 (PDT)


 * I find it hard to believe that you "don't purposefully seek out confrontation" after you kill the character of one of the most respected players in that game. Furthermore, if you were curious as to how the karma system worked, you should ask your guild leader or consult the wiki, rather than killing a character who has done nothing harmful toward you.  Despite the fact that you healed her after zombifying her, getting killed is still annoying, and at worst, insulting.


 * You carry the name of your guild on your back at all times. When you commit a malicious act, it casts a shadow of suspicion on your entire guild.  You cannot expect to distance yourself from your guild without leaving them.


 * Finally, it's not good diplomacy to claim that we don't play fairly, when you have no evidence of this. You claim the level difference is unfair, but as you've demonstrated by killing Rider, you don't seem to have a problem killing low level characters.  I'd advise you to tread lightly from now on, as an attack on one of us is akin to an attack on all of us. Saber HaVoC 15:59, 3 October 2006 (PDT)


 * Okay. So, Morgana, one of my guys killed your alt. He didn't know it was your alt (why would he?) He said he was sorry, he said it was a mistake, he got his warning (from me, for Player Killing) and paid for his crimes. In fact we all did. Many, many times.


 * I wanted to know why you attacked us and now I do. Now I have a new question for you: Can we put all this behind us and move on or is this going to be an "issue"? --Will Smogg 17:39, 3 October 2006 (PDT)


 * I just want to make something clear. Wow you have great eyes.... *Smiles* I don't like to hurt people or things or creatures. If I could learn everyting from the Wiki, I would've. Alas, the wiki is rather incomplete as is the game in ALPHA version. The point of the game from a programming perspective IS to experiment. Further, Will is correct in saying I did NOT know Rider was Morgana. If you read my previous statement that should been made clear. If I wanted to be on your guys bad side, I'd be an asshat like LordTunnel or something. However, NOT being an asshat is more rewarding. In fact wearing Hats on your ass can be rewarding aswell, provided ample grog is involved. I digress.


 * As for my guild, I did not wish to involve them in any act of vengeance. I actually disbanded from them during my period of dark conquest! But again we're all new to this game so please chill.


 * You're an amazing Scroll Wars Player, Saber! I love your work, honestly! And I am trying to get up to your level but everyone makes mistakes. I don't want to argue semantics on level differences, in fact I don't want to argue at all. I do want to sit down, have a pint of grog, and flirt with your women. Is that so much to ask? Can't we all just get along? *Bats Big Brown Puppy Eyes* --Huang Xin 19:08, 3 October 2006 (PDT)


 * Well, for my part I will no longer frequent Ace's Tavern. My actions there weren't really anything Guild related as far as a larger problem is concerned. I was working on an artistic masterpiece, or temporarily insane from bad grog ...probably both *muses* On the other hand, if you don't even know why my name has come up in this, then I'm Saint Charon the Pure and clearly the problem is yours *loftily*. I would be happy to come dance on a table top or two in the interest of world peace, I even know few dances that don't involved sharp objects. Korso, however, gets the dance With the edges *firmly* --Charon HaVoC


 * As for you... How COULD YOU?!?!? You give me the greatest slice of pie I've ever had and you DONT EVEN CALL ME?!?! I waited all night naked in a lake for you. Haha! You can come loot my body anytime you want to. Just tell me where to leave my loot bag if you're going to grab it. *smirks lasciviously* --Huang Xin


 * How would you know if I called you! You were in the lake! I may have clung to my, er, crystal all night waiting desperatly to hear back from you. Of course, I may also have swung by a popular tavern and followed some artistic urges *looks shifty* hard to say. Anyways, if you were REALLY interested in me, you wouldn't have used that snorkle. Holding you're breath while waiting for a woman naked in a lake is the only way to show REAL interest.


 * You don't really want me to tell you where to leave the loot now do you? Searching it out is supposed to be half the fun. *innocently* Of course, stashing all your loot in my bank account is the other half of the fun... --Charon HaVoC


 * I don't need a snorkle if you to drown me in a sea of your love, you Lustful little Minx! Hah! *Persistently* And if you're going to make me come find you, I'm not going to go easy on you when I do. I can't give you gold but you can have my Roll of Coins as long as you play nice... sometimes. --Huang Xin Aces♠


 * Ooh... I remember you. You "left your mark" as it is (one on the back of my head, another on my face, oh, look, missing teeth! There goes my charisma...) But, you know, I'll take the table dance anyway! But please, no more sharp objects... --Will Smogg 18:32, 3 October 2006 (PDT)


 * Those aren't 'marks', those are highly prized and much sought after artist signatures! Every stroke was carefully places after long deliberation. Some people pay a lot of money for those! I'll swing by after I find my boa. You can't do a credible table dance without a boa... --Charon HaVoC


 * Don't forget the body glitter, Char. *winks* --&there4;Morgs Mod&bull;B'cratHaVoC 19:36, 3 October 2006 (PDT)


 * I'd like to glitter someone's body with my tongue.... *Drifts off* Oh, Table dance. Boa... Right. Like that's not already on Youtube... >.> --Huang Xin


 * People really have to piss me off for things to be an "issue" with me. I'm a very happy go lucky kind of gal, so consider it in the rearview mirror...or something. *grins* --&there4;Morgs Mod&bull;B'cratHaVoC 19:01, 3 October 2006 (PDT)


 * Where's the rearview mirror? You look simply ravishing by the way. --Huang Xin


 * Sweetie, I always look ravishing. ~_^ --&there4;Morgs Mod&bull;B'cratHaVoC 19:28, 3 October 2006 (PDT)


 * You can't argue with it. There's nothing you can do to avoid it. "Morgs"? BAM! Wow... *Cue jaw drop and tongue rolling out red carpet style* "Daaammmmnn..." *Dies a happy man* X_x Speaking of ravishing... (O.o) --Huang Xin


 * Tis true. Can't help it. *dainty shrug* --&there4;Morgs Mod&bull;B'cratHaVoC 20:08, 3 October 2006 (PDT)

UPker Stance
Hey. The UPkers are willing never to PK a HaVoC member. Will Morgana agree to ally with us for now? -- LordTunnel Mod 12:43, 15 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Unless we suddenly enact a policy of allying with asshats, I don't see this alliance happening. Saber HaVoC 14:24, 15 October 2006 (PDT)
 * laughing No, be serious now. -Charon HaVoC
 * Seeing as your guild priority is to PK every Scroll Wars character, I don't see this being an ideal alliance for you. Supposing we recruited a new member you'd never PKed?  Would you place an alliance with a neutral guild over and above your own Guild Policy?  There is no right answer here: if you say YES, then your guild is weak and submissive, and therefore not a group with which HaVoC would like to be associated; if you say NO, then your alliance is untruthful, and therefore not one in which HaVoC cares to partake.-- MaRt ModHaVoC 22:09, 26 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Hey LT, not that I speak for the whole group, but I'm sure CDF would be be more willing to "ally" with the UPKERs if they make life for havoc as miserable as possible. Try talking with the general or something.  The Devil 10:09, 27 October 2006 (PDT)


 * Maybe you should allie with the Jesters, since they are making my life on D.S. more miserable then UPK ever did.Warped 14:18, 29 October 2006 (PST)

Fan Mail #01
''From: Crunchyfist, ''You all seem to be a good lot, and I appreciate the things you do for ''the community, namely, hunting down PKers. That being said, you may ''want to examine your own ranks. Attached is a screenshot of one of ''your own PKing my character.

Response:

HaVoC

The Best of the Best

October 15, 2006 Attn: Crunchyfist

RE:	Scrollwars Complaint

Our File No.: 0-IF-6969-U-NAO-PLS Dear Sir/Madam:

I was very distressed to hear about your recent misfortune involving one of our esteemed members. Please rest assured that a full investigation was made into the matter with the following results. We dispatched one ‘Disposable Assassin’ to the scene of the crime. After much investigating which involved the use of specialized tools such as a case of grog lite, some Vaseline, and a turkey baster, it was discovered that poor Charon had come home to discover her significant other in bed with another woman and two orange crabs. After killing the crabs, stealing their shells and coins (apparently being an arthropod is a very lucrative business in the scrollwars world), she proceeded to kill said mate and loot his corpse for 2,000 coins. Finally, in a bloodthirsty fit of rage, she ran out into the streets, pushing old ladies in front of buses and stepping on any puppy tails she came across. It was here that she apparently encountered you, oh poor unsuspecting player. We sincerely apologize for any harm and trauma her attack may have caused you, and particularly so, if she happened to stick her battleaxe in any inappropriate places. We recommend you visit our personal counselor, Madam Chil de Moleste, to sort out any emotional scarring that may have occurred as a result of this atrocious attack. We also recommend reading The Idiot’s Guide to Sodomy, and What to do if You Sat on it and Didn’t Want to Rotate.

Once again, I am sincerely sorry for what has happened to you. Please rest assured that the culprit will be dragged into the street and beaten with sausages until she comes to her senses. I do wish you the best of luck and all success in your future.

Very Truly Yours: HaVoC:

BY:____________________________ ZINOVIA, GUILD SECRETARY

HaVoC/zh

cc: Jo Mama

the list
Why am I not on "the list" my user name is stale2000. The Devil 14:15, 21 October 2006 (PDT)
 * Last I checked you were laying knocked out by our HQ because Saber kicked the crap out of you, so how does that make you a worthy adversary again? *puzzled* --&#9733;MorgsMod&bull;B'cratHaVoC 15:57, 21 October 2006 (PDT)


 * I think you have to kill us to make the list, repetitively dying by us isn't the same. Really you are just an nuisance.  If i can kill you ten times a night; im not worried by you.Warped 10:29, 22 October 2006 (PDT)

Can I be on the "list" then? John the Baker 11:55, 22 October 2006 (PDT)
 * I believe Warped's answer also applies here. Saber HaVoC 17:33, 22 October 2006 (PDT)
 * ^ This. --&#9733;MorgsMod&bull;B'cratHaVoC 20:05, 22 October 2006 (PDT)
 * But I have killed members of HaVoC, and Warped didn't kill me ten times in one night. John the Baker 05:56, 23 October 2006 (PDT)
 * But you're not a threat to us, and we still crush you like a cockroach. Saber HaVoC 18:45, 23 October 2006 (PDT)
 * I'm not a Threat but a Level 9 Warrior is? John the Baker 04:09, 24 October 2006 (PDT)

For the record, not everyone on our list is a threat to us; similarly, not everyone we like to smack around is on our list. Here at HaVoC, things are fresh and innovative. Thank you for your interest.-- MaRt ModHaVoC 22:02, 26 October 2006 (PDT)